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Aug 20, 2023

Timeline of the Patriarchs

 Timeline of the Patriarchs


This timeline is provided as a general guide to the period of the Patriarchs. It is based on the Biblical text and archaeological data that places the Patriarchs in the Middle Bronze age.  

The archaeology surrounding the Patriarchs is covered in the books The Archaeology of the Old Testament and The Location of Sodom.





 From The Archaeology of the Old Testament.

 Modified August 20, 2023. Copyright © 2023 Electronic Christian Media

 


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Mar 19, 2022

The Journal of Creation article concerns

Recently, I was made aware of two articles in The Journal of Creation written by Anne Hbermehl on her idea of where Sodom should be located. 

 

Habermehl, Anne. ‘Sodom: Part 1’. Journal of Creation, Viewpoint II, 31, no. 2 (1 January 2017): 53–60.

Habermehl, Anne. ‘Sodom: Part 2’. Journal of Creation, Viewpoint II, 31, no. 2 (1 January 2017): 71–77.

 

I have addressed her arguments and concerns in detail in this blog post.

 

Part 1

First, she (Anne Hbermehl) is a chemist and not an archaeologist nor a biblical specialist (and it shows), although she has published several articles in The Journal of Creation, but I do appreciate that she is a fellow Canadian just not an informed biblical scholar :-). 

 

What Lot would have seen from between Bethel and Ai.
(C) Michael Ludenni Labelled by David Graves



Sodom on the North end of the Dead Sea

She is correct in reading secondary sources about the location of the Cities of the Plain on the north end of the Dead Sea (Heb. Kikkar undeniable in the biblical text and argued by many scholars before William F. Albright came along. See The Location of Sodom where I quote them]. But I can see that Hbermehl has never been to the area of Bethel and Ai to see what Lot could see. Not only is it impossible to see the southern end of the Dead Sea (which she documents) but the west side of the Jordan river from this location is impossible to see, so she not only has an argument from ignorance but also an argument from silence as there are no ruins there with a destruction layer. The biblical text does not demand the obliteration of the sites as even Hiroshima left remains. Impossible for the cities to be where Hbermehl said they are as they are not visible from Bethel and Ai as she argues for the southern cities of Bab edh-Dhra.

 

Location of Canaan

The identification of Canaan appears to be defined differently from period to period in Scripture defined by the ebb and flow of the settlements of those known as Canaanites and not a defined territory. To mix the various biblical periods can lead to confusion as Hbermehl has done in her article. The Encyclopedia Judaica describes Canaan as follows:

"According to certain biblical passages, the name Canaan applied to an area along the coast of the Mediterranean, including the important cities of Tyre and Sidon (e.g., Num. 13:29; Josh. 5:1; Isa. 23:11). No single geographical definition for the land of Canaan exists in the Bible (Num. 34:2–12; Ezek. 47:13–20; 48:1–7, 23–29) or in other sources. The term occasionally indicates an extensive area encompassing all of Palestine and Syria, while at other times it is confined to a strip of land along the eastern shore of the Mediterranean (for the southern boundary, see Josh. 15:2–4, and for the northern boundary, see Josh. 19:24–31). According to Genesis 10:19, Canaan extended in a restricted fashion from Sidon in the north to Gaza, Gerar, and the southern end of the Dead Sea in the south. The inclusion of Zemar, Arvad, and Sin (Siyanu, to the south of Ugarit) in Genesis 10:15–18, and the mention of Ammia (near Tripoli) as a city "in the Land of Canaan" in the inscriptions of Idrimi, king of *Alalakh (dated by various scholars to the 15th–13th centuries B.C.E.), indicate that even areas north of Sidon were included in the land of Canaan. However, the mention of a Canaanite among other foreigners in a merchant list from Ugarit from around 1200 B.C.E. suggests, therefore, that at that time Ugarit was not considered a part of Canaan. According to the detailed description of the borders of the land of Canaan in Numbers 34:2–12, the southern border began at the southern tip of the Dead Sea and continued southwest to the ascent of Akrabbim and Kadesh-Barnea, reaching to the Brook of Egypt (probably Wadi El-Arish). On the west was the Mediterranean. The northern border started at the coast near a place known as Mount Hor and extended east to Lebo-Hamath, the present-day Labwa in the valley of Lebanon (the Biqā), north of Baalbek (ancient Heliopolis). From there the border continued east to Zedad, the present-day adad, about 65½ miles (c. 100 km.) north-northeast of Damascus. The northeast corner of Canaan was marked by the settlements of Ziphronah and Hazar-Enan, identified today with awārīn and Qaryatayn, southeast of adad. The eastern boundary included the region of Damascus and the Hauran to the east and the Bashan and the Golan to the south, touching the southeast corner of the Sea of Galilee and continuing south along the Jordan River to the Dead Sea (cf. Ezek. 47:17–18). Neither Numbers 34 nor other biblical passages include Transjordan within the land of Canaan (Num. 33:51; 35:10; Josh. 22:10–11; et al.). It is reasonable to assume that the political and demographic realities reflected in the boundaries of Canaan given in Numbers 34 are roughly similar to those existing at the time of Egyptian rule in Ere Israel and Syria in the third quarter of the second millennium B.C.E. This area is given in one instance, in a broken and doubtful context, as [p-i?]-ati ša ki-na-i (J.A. Knudtzon (ed.), Die El-Amarna-Tafeln, 1 (1915), 36:15, p. 288), which would mean "the province (?) of Canaan." According to certain biblical passages, the name Canaan applied to an area along the coast of the Mediterranean, including the important cities of Tyre and Sidon (e.g., Num. 13:29; Josh. 5:1; Isa. 23:11)." Bustanay Oded and Shimon Gibson, "The Land of Canaan," Encyclopedia Judaica (22 vols., 2nd ed., eds. Berenbaum and Skolnik, 2008).

In the covenant with Abraham, God gave him the land of Canaan (Gen 12:4a, 12:5d). Genesis defines Canaan’s southern border as “the river of Egypt.” This is NOT the Nile River, but the Wadi el Arish, located in Egypt’s northeastern region. The northern border of Canaan is defined as the River Euphrates (Gen 15:18). The land of Canaan changes over time with the resettlement of the Canaanites throughout the region. At this time Sodom was included in Canaan (Gen 10:19). But this does not mean that Canaanites always occupied the same area.

 

Again under Hbermehl's argument for the boundary of Canaan on the west side of the Jordan she quotes two passages from Numbers (Canaan at the time of Moses) arguing that Canaan is on the west side of the Jordan, but the passage simply states that they travel into the territory where Canaanites lived and also crossed the Jordan assuming that the Jordan river was the boundary. However, the border varied from time to time and is not static as she assumes.

 

The promised land (including the land of Canaan) also included territory on the east side of the Jordan (i.e. East Manasseh, Gad, Reuben Joshua 13:15–23; Numbers 32 see map).

 

Josephus

Next, Hbermehl argues from Josephus (J.W. 4:8:452–454) for the location of Sodom, but fails to deal with the testimony of Egeria and other Byzantine pilgrims. (See The Location of Sodom) She states:

"Josephus tells us that the mountain behind Jericho (i.e. on the west side of Jericho) runs from Scythopolis (ancient Beth Shean) in the north down past Sodom and on to the far southward limits of the Dead Sea. To make the geography of the area clear, Josephus then says that there is a mountain on the other (east) side of the Jordan as well; it begins at Julias in the north and goes southward to Somorrhon, which is the bounds of Petra in Arabia (i.e. in Edom). Note that Josephus only mentions Sodom when he describes the mountain on the west side behind Jericho."

She draws on Josephus who wrote in c. 37 – c. 100 AD, so again mixes her historical periods. Roman/Byzantine tradition places Sodom in the southern end of the Dead Sea. Also, note that Josephus refers to Julias and I have published that this was part of Tall el-Hammam in the Roman/Byzantine period and the Sodom tradition at the time was around Tall el-Hammam visible from Mt. Nebo according to the Bishop of Sodom communicated to Eugeria.

 

The Prophecy of Hosea (11:8)

She make an assumption that is not demonstrated in the text. She assumes that it must be inside of Ephraim when it could equally have been beside it in Gad or Reuben. A more plausible argument is that because Jesus mentioned Sodom when he was in the Decapolis (east side of the Jordan) that Sodom was in the Decapolis (Matt 10:1–15, 11:20–24; cf. Luke 10:1–12, 17:28–30).

 

Significance of Zoar/Bela

Most of what she says here is a mute argument as I demonstrate in The Location of Sodom. The actual location of Zoar is not known and only placed at the south end of the Dead Sea (Sila) demonstrated on the Madaba map. Her argument does not support either the East or West of the Jordan.

 

What would the cities’ territory look like today?

First, hermenutically prophetic passages need to be dealt with differently than narrative.  

See FACT 19: EZEKIEL IS NOT BIBLICAL NARRATIVE    90
FACT 20: JEREMIAH 50:35–46 IS PROPHETIC LITERATURE    91

Hbermehl make an assumption, based on Google Earth, that the west side of the Jordan is desolate even today, but fails to have visited the areas and found that there are date palm plantations all along the road driving to En Gedi and a kibbutz that has beautiful gardens near Qumran. Just a shallow argument and fails to knew that other sites were also cursed and yet had recovered and prospered. The site of Tall el-Hammam was destroyed and the entire Jordan valley was uninhabitable for ca. 500 years (archaeological fact). The biblical text does not demand the obliteration of the sites as even Hiroshima left remains. 

Jeremiah 50:39–40 does not say “forever” but for “all generations” (Heb. dōr’ wā dōr’ דֹּור). Jeremiah  indicates that Babylon will be destroyed to such an extent that one generation after another will not dwell in it (i.e., “generation to generation”). Although this is sometimes understood as “forever” (Heb. olam i.e., Joel 3:20), Babyon was resettled. 

Hbermehl states: "Because the cities’ destruction occurred very early in history, they would not necessarily have been situated on mounds formed from previous layers of occupation (called
tells), as is commonly the case in the Near East." However, Sodom is mention in the Ebla tablets dated to the Early Bronze period and listed among the early nations in Gen 10 (Early Bronze period). Then it is mentioned among the patriarchs (Abraham and Lot) so dates to the Middle Bronze period. This is an occupation from ca. 3600-1500 BC. That is 2100 years of occupation that would certainly be evident in a tell, although she argues that it would not exist. Guess she has never excavated a tell.

Then Hbermehl states "Indeed, if there were previous layers, it is possible that the fierce fire
of God burned not only the current cities of Abraham’s time, but also any earlier layers beneath." Even Hirochima left remains and this hypothesis is just nonsense or arguing from silence.

An example of the destruction of Sodom.

Then she states "However, we have no way of knowing any of this unless the sites are located and excavated." Well Tall el-Hammam has been located and excavated for 15 seasons and there is EB and MB destruction layer and unusual destruction identified as from an Air Burst, so we do know. There is plenty of ash, several meters in some places.

Mention of sulphur balls is just echoing Ron Wyatt's nonsense for his location of Sodom near Madada that has no archeaological validity what so ever.

The rest of her arguments about Zoar, Madaba map and Bab edh-Dhra are mostly correct and do not affect her conclusion against Tall el-Hammam or her argugment for the west side of the Jordan, so I will not comment on them here.

Part 2


Date of the Patriarchs: Divergence of the biblical and secular timelines

 Hbermehl points out the importance of the dates and discrepancy between biblical and secular timelines. What she fails to point out is that there is no firm date for the patriarchs found in scripture (we base this on the cultural clues mentioned in the text) nor agreed upon by biblical conservative scholars within the Middle Bronze Age (where the majority of biblical scholars place them). 

Era of the destruction of the country of Sodom

Hbermehl mentions the importance and likelyhood that Sodom was a city state. This is excavtly what scholars are now calling Tall el-Hammam at over 62 acres and one of the largest site in the southern levant. So her assumption is correct and confirmed in the excavations.

Historical level of the Dead Sea

I agree and documented the levels of the Dead Sea in The Location of Sodom. This is a mute argument for either the East or West side of the Jordan but just demonstrates that they are not under the Dead Sea (as Albright and followers claimed).

What about Jericho? A tale of power politics

Hbermehl  states "the destruction of Sodom at around 3000 BC [how does she know the Bible does not give the date but must be extrapolated from the details and everyone disagrees on the precise date].. . We suggest here that Jericho would have been uninhabited at the time of the destruction of the cities and that this explains why Jericho was not mentioned in the biblical story." This just sounds like nonsense to me.

Her assumption is that the destruction of Sodom "had to have occurred near the beginning of the Early Bronze Age period, according to the timeline presented here.This means that any archaeological claims about the location of the land of Sodom need to fit this timeline." However, she does not give adequate arguments for this date and as I have shown (see chart) conservative evangelical Christians differ with her dates (she claims are biblical dates), and place the Patriarchs in the Middle Bronze Age.

Why Tall el-Hammam is not Sodom

Hbermehl  states: "With no other evidences in hand he (Dr. Collins director of Tall el-Hammam) essentially leaped to a decision that Tall (or Tell) el-Hammam must be Sodom." She wrote in 2017 but now the excavations have entered their 15th season (2009-2021) and there is insurmountable evidence and publications.

Hbermehl  states: "Another problem with the el-Hammam site is that it was rebuilt after its major destruction, and had an extensive Iron Age occupation later on. This does not accord with the biblical verses cited in part 2 that describe Sodom as being a wasteland forever after its destruction." The fact that Sodom was destroyed and was never resettled as Sodom, but 500 years later people settled again on the site does not violate the biblical passage about the destruction of Sodom, similar to Babylon being cursed but did exist after its destruction.

Hbermehl  states: "We might wonder whether, in fact, it was the children of Israel who destroyed
el-Hammam, because God had told the people to conquer the cities in the territory east of the Jordan." Most accept Tall el-Hammam as Abel-Shittim and there was no late bronze occupation on site "late Bronze Gap" according to the archaeological remains in 15 years of excavation (there is a small LB structure on the top of the tall likely a signal station). She does not understand or ignores the stratigraphy of the site that is well published.

Hbermehl's attempt at explaining the meaning of the Hebrew term "kikkar" is totally nonsense and wonder if she has even consulted a Hebrew dictionary. Even today kikkar is the term used in Israel for a traffic roundabout, and Dr. Collins does not maintain that it only applies to the Jordan Valley, but when it does refer to the geography connected to Sodom refers to the Jordan Valley as a round circular plain (visible from the rim overlooking the plain, as they did not have Google Earth in the antiquity :-).

Hbermehl state in conclusion that "There is no biblical or other clue to support Collins’ belief that Sodom was a large city" however she earlier argued that it must have been a city state, which is now what scholars are calling Tall el-Hammam, at 62 acres, a city state. Her arguments contradict themselves.

The Appendix 

The Appendix about her early date (ca. 3000 BC) for the destruction of Sodom (patriarchs) is debated by most good conservative evangelical scholars see the chart earlier that place the Patriarchs in the Middle Bronze Age.

 

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Research

Dr. Collins responds:

Troweling Down:  Episode 21: The Airburst is Official!
Troweling Down:  Episode 21: Evidence Supporting An Airburst Event Part 1
 
I have responded to several criticism of the Scientific Report that was published by a peer reviewed journal recently.
 

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Oct 5, 2021

The Date of the Patriarchs (Sodom Debate)

I will begin this post with a great analogy that one of my late professors Dr. Roger Nicole gave in my class (1979) that always stuck with me.  It was a military analogy but brilliant. He began by reminding us that you need to always know the location of your enemy and represent their arguments accurately. Represent the argument of your opponents correctly and do not misrepresent it so that when you drop your bombs it will land on the target, otherwise they will say I am over here and you missed me (I can still hear his Swiss/French accent). This has been true for so many debates in Biblical Archaeology but perhaps no more pertinent than in the date for the Patriarchs and the debate over The location of Sodom that I have been dealing with for over 40 years.

The largest opposition I get for The Location of Sodom is the date of the Patriarchs. And the analogy of Dr. Nicole is spot on here. They drop their bombs and miss the target because we are not where they think or assume we are. They do not represent the position of their opponents accurately and so when they drop their bombs (early or late date for the Patriarch) it does not land on the enemy. I have always, since that day, made sure that I understand where my opponent is coming from and accurately understand their position so when I drop my bomb it lands on my opponent and not out in the field somewhere. 

So lets consider the dates of the Patriarchs and the various positions of the debate. This is more complicated than most acknowledge and understand. So where is the targets located so you can drop your bombs on the target and not miss it so they say sorry we are over here and you missed me.

Chart of various dates for the Patriarchs
documented by various authors

1. Fact 36: Conservative scholars debate the date of the Exodus

The date of the Patriarchs is determined in large part by the date of the Exodus and then worked backwards. The generally accepted dates for the Exodus among conservative scholars fall into two camps: the early dates (1491[1], 1461[2], 1447[3], 1446[4], 1445,[5] 1430[6] BC LBIIA) and the late dates (1300,[7] 1290[8], 1270–1230,[9] 1260[10] BC LBIIB).[11] Collins argues for what he calls “a middle date” between 1416–1386 BC, in the eighteenth Dynasty and during the reign of Pharaoh Tutmoses IV.[12]

What is clear in this brief, and certainly not exhaustive, sampling of dates is that there is no consensus even within each camp as to the exact date of the Exodus.[13] The conservative scholar, Charles Pfeiffer, commented four decades ago with a statement, which is still relevant, that: “the evidence for the historicity of the Exodus account is decisive, but the evidence for the specific date is still inconclusive.”[14]

To further complicate the matter, conservative scholars hold to both early and late dates for the Exodus. While the early date is often categorized as the view of conservative theologians, the late date is also held by many eminent conservative biblical scholars and archaeologists[15] (see chart above).[16] James K. Hoffmeier, Professor of Near Eastern Archaeology and Old Testament at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, states:

many conservative scholars are adherents of the so-called “early” date [1446 BC]. Unfortunately for some, this date has become a sort of litmus test for one’s evangelical orthodoxy. This is lamentable, because I believe that the 13th-century date [late date] is equally based on biblical evidence.[17]

Steven M. Ortiz, former Professor of Archaeology and Biblical Backgrounds and Director of the Charles D. Tandy Institute for Archaeology at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and now Director of the Center for Archaeological Studies no Lipscomb University, also maintains a late date for the Exodus, placing it in the 13th cent. BC.[18]

The dates for the Exodus are calculated based on the statement in Exodus 12:40 about the 430 years of travel.[19] But when does this period begin and end? Wood follows the Masoretic text (MT),[20] while Collins follows the Septuagint (LXX) reading, which is supported by the MT patriarchal chronologies, the Samaritan Pentateuch (SP), the apostle Paul (Gal 3:16–17), and Josephus who claimed that the sojourn was 215 years in Canaan and 215 years in Egypt (Ant. 2.15.2).[21]

Depending on when one places the date of the Exodus, the date of the Patriarchs also moves to arrive in different periods.

To state that the early date is the date mentioned in the Bible reveals one's ignorance of the way dates are calculated and the bombs drop missing their target.

The Location of Sodom page 96.

Footnotes Fact 36


[1] Floyd Nolen Jones, Chronology of the Old Testament: A Return to the Basics (Green Forest, AR: Master Books, 2004), 53.

[2] E. W Faulstich, History, Harmony and the Hebrew Kings (Spencer, IA: Chronology Books, 1986), 196–200.

[3] Tutmose III would be the Pharaoh of the oppression and Amenhoptep II would be the Pharaoh of the Exodus. Hoerth and McRay, Bible Archaeology, 82; J. Randall Price, The Stones Cry Out: What Archaeology Reveals About the Truth of the Bible (Eugene, OR: Harvest House, 1997), 129.

[4] Bryant G. Wood, “The Rise and Fall of the 13th-Century Exodus-Conquest Theory,” JETS 48, no. 3 (2005): 488; James K. Hoffmeier, “What Is the Biblical Date for the Exodus? A Response to Bryant Wood,” JETS 50, no. 2 (2007): 225–47; Bryant G. Wood, “The Biblical Date for the Exodus Is 1446 BC: A Response to James Hoffmeier,” JETS 50, no. 2 (2007): 249–58.

[5] Charles H. Dyer, “The Date of the Exodus Reexamined,” BSac 140, no. 559 (1983): 225–43.

[6] John J. Bimson, Redating the Exodus and Conquest, 2nd ed., JSOT Supplement Series 5 (Sheffield, UK: Almond, 1981), Part 2; John Van Seters, “Review of John J. Bimson, Redating the Exodus and Conquest,” The Journal of Egyptian Archaeology 70 (1984): 180–82.

[7] Brad C. Sparks, “Egyptian Text Parallels to the Exodus: The Egyptology Literature,” in Out of Egypt: Israel’s Exodus Between Text and Memory, History and Imagination Conference, ed. Thomas E. Levy (Qualcomm Institute, University of California, San Diego, 2013), .

[8] Hoerth and McRay, Bible Archaeology, 83; Price, The Stones Cry Out, 130; Charles F. Aling, “Historical Synchronisms and the Date of the Exodus,” Artifax 17, no. 2 (n.d.): 19.

[9] Kenneth A. Kitchen and T. C. Mitchell, “Chronology of the Old Testament,” ed. I. Howard Marshall et al., NBD (Downers Grove, ILL: InterVarsity, 1996), 191; Kitchen, Reliability of the OT, 307–311.

[10] Kitchen, Reliability of the OT, 159, 307, 359.

[11] Rameses II (1279-1213 BC) would be the Pharaoh of both the oppression and the Exodus. Lawrence T. Geraty, “Dates for the Exodus I Have Known,” in Out of Egypt: Israel’s Exodus Between Text and Memory, History and Imagination Conference (Qualcomm Institute, University of California, San Diego, 2013).

[12] Collins and Scott, Discovering the City of Sodom, 140; Steven Collins, Let My People Go!: Using Historical Synchronisms to Identify the Pharaoh of the Exodus (Albuquerque, NM: TSU Press, 2012); “Using Historical Synchronisms to Identify the Pharaoh of the Exodus,” BRB 5, no. 7 (2005): 1–70.

[13] Omar Zuhdi, “Dating the Exodus: A Study in Egyptian Chronology,” KMT: A Modern Journal of Ancient Egypt 4, no. 2 (1993): 15–27.

[14] Charles F. Pfeiffer, “Exodus,” in The New International Dictionary of the Bible, ed. Merrill C. Tenney and James D. Douglas (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1987), 333.

[15] R. K Harrison, Introduction to the Old Testament (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1969), 115–16; Donald J. Wiseman, 1 and 2 Kings: An Introduction and Commentary, Tyndale Old Testament Commentaries (Downers Grove, ILL: IVP Academic, 2008), 104; Caroline Masom, Pat Alexander, and Alan R. Millard, eds., Picture Archive of the Bible (Tring, Herts, UK: Lion, 1987), 22; R. Alan Cole, Exodus, Tyndale Old Testament Commentaries 2 (Downers Grove, ILL: IVP Academic, 2008), 40–43; John D Currid, A Study Commentary on Exodus, An Evangelical Press Study Commentary (Auburn, MA: Evangelical, 2000), 27–29; Richard S Hess, Joshua: An Introduction and Commentary, Tyndale Old Testament Commentaries (Downers Grove, ILL: InterVarsity, 1996), 139–43; Kitchen, Ancient Orient, 57–69; The Bible in Its World (Exeter, UK: Paternoster, 1977), 75–79; Reliability of the OT, 307–9.

[16] Ralph K. Hawkins, “Propositions for Evangelical Acceptance of a Late-Date Exodus-Conquest: Biblical Data and the Royal Scarabs from Mt. Ebal,” JETS 50, no. 1 (2007): 31–46.

[17] Hoffmeier, “What Is the Biblical Date for the Exodus?,” 225.

[18] Steven M. Ortiz, “Hermeneutical and Methodological Comments on the History of the Conquest and Settlement: The Archaeological and Biblical Support for the 13th Century,” in Southwest Regional ETS Meetings (Fort Worth, TX, 2006), 1.

[19] Paul J. Ray Jr., “The Duration of the Israelite Sojourn In Egypt,” BS 17, no. 2 (2004):  33–45; Collins and Scott, Discovering the City of Sodom, 134–36, 139; Kitchen, Reliability of the OT, 307–308.

[20] Wood, “The Biblical Date for the Exodus Is 1446 BC,” 249.

[21] Collins and Scott, Discovering the City of Sodom, 134–41; Collins, Let My People Go!

Fact 35: Not all archaeologists approach biblical numbers in the same way

An issue which affects chronology is the different methods of handling biblical numbers. Wood proposes a literal chronology using base-10 hard numbers.[1] Wood states that he bases his dating scheme on “a straightforward reading of the chronological data in the Old Testament.”[2]

By contrast, Collins uses a different method of accounting for numbers, also employed by other conservative evangelical scholars,[3] where he treats the years as “formulaic/honorific” or authentic.[4] He states: “I do take the number [440] as formulaic and not literal in the arithmetic sense, and I rely on historical synchronisms to link the Exodus to Egyptian history.”[5]

 Collins goes on to explain “in terms of its original cultural context. . . . Authentic may equate to literal if that’s what the writer intended.”[6]

This explains why two otherwise conservative scholars both arrive at conclusions with such a large spread between the dates of the Patriarchs.

Footnotes Fact 35


[1] Wood, “Locating Sodom: A Critique of the Northern Proposal,” 81; Eugene H. Merrill, Kingdom of Priests: A History of Old Testament Israel, 2nd ed. (Grand Rapids: Baker Academic, 2008), 83–96; “Fixed Dates in Patriarchal Chronology,” BSac 137, no. 547 (1980): 241–51; “Texts, Talls, and Old Testament Chronology,” 20–21; Edwin Richard Thiele, The Mysterious Numbers of the Hebrew Kings: A Reconstruction of the Chronology of the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, revised (Grand Rapids: Kregel Academic & Professional, 1994).

[2] Wood, “Locating Sodom: A Critique of the Northern Proposal,” 81.

[3] David Mark Fouts, “A Defense of the Hyperbolic Interpretation of Large Numbers in the Old Testament,” JETS 40 (1997): 377–87; “The Demographics of Ancient Israel,” BRB 7, no. 2 (2007): 1–10; Carol A. Hill, “Making Sense of the Numbers of Genesis,” Perspectives on Science and Christian Faith 55, no. 4 (2003): 239–51; Andrew E. Steinmann, “The Mysterious Numbers Of the Book of Judges,” JETS 48 (2005): 491–500.

[4] Collins, “Tall El-Hammam Is Still Sodom,” 4; “Tall El-Hammam Is Sodom,” 6.

[5] Collins, “Tall El-Hammam Is Still Sodom,” 8.

[6] Collins and Scott, Discovering the City of Sodom, 138.

The Location of Sodom page 114.

Fact 37: Most maximalists believe that the Patriarchs lived in the Middle Bronze Age

Most conservative evangelical scholars [D1] and maximalists would place the period of the Patriarchs (including Abraham and Lot) in the Middle Bronze Age (See Charts 2, 4, 5 and 6). This is based not so much on archaeological finds as on correlating characteristics in the biblical text with the cultural markers of the MB periods. Scholars who hold to a MB I period for the Patriarchs base their position on the literal biblical chronology based on a mid–15th cent. BC date for the Exodus, the antiquity of the biblical accounts (Gen 14), the geopolitical conditions and climate of the regions in the MB I period, nomadism and migration exemplified in the domestication of camels, and personal names and places identified in MB texts from Egypt, Ur, Mari, Ebla, Nuzi and Anatolia (20th–18th cent. BC).[1] Those who support a MB IIA/B date for the Patriarchs rely on the 13th cent. BC date for the Exodus, the presence of the Hyksos in Egypt, pottery in Negev, the Beni-Hasan mural (1890 BC), Middle kingdom Egyptian chronology, the geopolitical conditions (Gen 14), parallels with the MB culture and the price of slaves, and the structure of covenants.[2]

Collins explains some of the issues surrounding the question of chronology when he states:

While high, middle, and low ANE chronologies exist—tied principally to the chronology(ies) of Egypt—the differences between them consist of one or two decades, not centuries [See Chart 2]. (I am talking about the well-worked-out chronologies of mainline scholars like W. F. Albright, K. Kenyon, A. Ben-Tor, B. Mazar, A. Mazar, K. A. Kitchen, D. Redford, Wente and Van Siclen, J. Hoffmeier, J. Currid, and W. Dever; not the fringe, radical revisions of ANE chronology suggested by D. Rohl, G. Aardsma, and a few others.).[3]

Based on Chart 4 below, almost all evangelical scholars place the Patriarchs in the Middle Bronze Age, including Wood (2166–1991 BC MB I) and Collins (2000–1600 MB IIA/B). Freedman and van Hattem place the Patriarchs in the EB age, to support a SST.[4] The proponents who place them in the LB, Iron, and Persian/Greek periods are in the minority. Even Wood, who supports the idea of the EB destruction of BeD as supporting its claim on being Sodom, places the Patriarchs in the Middle Bronze I along with other scholars.[5] Wood acknowledges the discrepancy and explains:

If we assume a mid–15th century BC date for the Exodus, the date for the destruction [of Sodom] would then be ca. 2070 BC. The archeological date for the destruction of Bab eh-Dhra and Numeira, however, is considerably earlier than this. . . . This leaves a discrepancy between the Biblical date and the archaeological date of 230–280 years.[6]

The fact remains that most evangelical scholars believe that the Patriarchs live in the MB period (2nd millennium BC).

The Location of Sodom page 114.

Footnotes Fact 37


[1] John J. Bimson, “Archaeological Data and the Dating of the Patriarchs,” in Essays on the Patriarchal Narratives, ed. Alan R. Millard and Donald J. Wiseman (Downers Grove, ILL: InterVarsity, 1980), 59–92; Merrill, Kingdom of Priests, 47–48; “Texts, Talls, and Old Testament Chronology,” 20–21.

[2] Kitchen, Reliability of the OT, 352–53; John E. Goldingay, “The Patriarchs in Scripture and History,” in Essays on the Patriarchal Narratives, ed. Donald J. Wiseman and Alan R. Millard (Winona Lake, IN: Eisenbrauns, 1983), 11–42; Alan R. Millard, “Methods of Studying the Patriarchal Narratives as Ancient Texts,” in Essays on the Patriarchal Narratives, ed. Donald J. Wiseman and Alan R. Millard (Winona Lake, IN: Eisenbrauns, 1983), 43–58; Nahum M Sarna, “The Patriarchs Genesis 12-36,” in Genesis: World of Myths and Patriarchs, ed. Ada Feyerick, Cyrus Herzl Gordon, and Nahum M Sarna (New York: New York University Press, 1996), 117–66.

[3] Collins, “Tall El-Hammam Is Still Sodom,” 10.

[4] Recently Kris Udd wrote his dissertation on the subject and states in his abstract “Combining the new lower archaeological chronologies and the higher dates for the patriarchs indicates the possibility that Bâb edh-Dhrâʿ’ and Numeira could be two of the biblical cities of the plain.”  Udd applies two extreme views to propose this speculative hypothesis. Kris J. Udd, “Bab Edh-Dhraʿ, Numeira, and the Biblical Patriarchs: A Chronological Study” (Ph.D. diss., Andrews University, 2011).

[5] Wood, “Discovery of the Sin Cities,” 78.

[6] Ibid.


 [D1] See “A Chronology for the Cities of the Plain” and “Abraham and Tall Nimrin: Docs the Chronology Work?” in Collins. Sodom and Gomorrah, The earliest possible birth date for Abraham working from The Masoretic Text is 2166 BC. but all the chronological evidence (apart from the Masoretic version of Exodus 12:40. which I regard as problematic), would put his birth about 215 years later, if the patriarchal life spans are taken literal)). If they aren’t literal, but arc somehow “honorific attributions.” then the lime of Abraham is later still. But regardless of which “Biblical” date you assign for Abraham, he’s a resident of the Middle Bronze Age (ca. 2000-1600 BC the period from 2300-2000 BC is now included in The Intermediate Bronze Age). In Ibis light, one must note that the oft-proposed Sodom and Gomorrah sites—Bah edh-Dhra and Numeira were both destroyed about 2350 BC. long before the time of Abraham and Lot Although there’s a smaller Early Bronze Age village built after the 2350 BC destruction at Bâb edh-Dhrâʿ, it’s unfortified and short-lived. The Biblical description of Sodom requires that it be fortified (“Lot sat in the gateway of Sodom”), 72 n. 3.

 Conclusion

So before you drop your early or late date bombs you may want to know were your target is located because you have missed the target, we are in a different honorific time zone.


Facts taken from The Location of Sodom.

Further Research

Sodom Research Blog to related articles and links.

David E. Graves, “Sodom And Salt in Their Ancient Near Eastern Cultural Context,” Near East Archaeological Society Bulletin 61 (2016): 18–36.

For the historic publication of the Scientific Reports in a peer reviewed publication see my PostBunch, T. E., LeCompte, M.A., Adedeji, A.V. et al. "A Tunguska sized airburst destroyed Tall el-Hammam a Middle Bronze Age city in the Jordan Valley near the Dead Sea." Scientific Reports 11, no 1 18632 (2021), 1-64.  Online article link


For my response to Gordon Govier's article in Christianity Today see my blog post.

For the Fallacy of Neutrality see blog post.

For the Date of the Patriarchs see blog post. 


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Updated Feb, 2024